thanks for the links. Got it turned to -90
this is on a different quad, an origin Hobby CK-250 with Airtronics Aquila-6 radio, and what appears to be a standard CC3D, but it is in a case and cannot see markings.
I had to load firmware on this one the same as previous, manually.
went through both vehicle and transmitter wizard, and checked channels, set board orientation -90 (arrow pointing right), etc.
Tested motors and gyro input with motors spooled up and everything seemed ok.
Maiden flite, idle motors and within a couple seconds of idling or with any stick input it just idles up quickly and flips over on a dime.
I have re-installed firmware and re-done wizards, selected different model configurations (generic X-quad, and Chinese Clone ZMR250)and same thing.
I feel this is something with configuration OR a bad board, which would bnot be a LB issue.
But I guess the only way to know if you have a bad board is if configuration is ruled out.
here is the config file. Hopefully it is configuration and not bad board.