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arming - save conditions
« on: December 06, 2015, 10:07:44 pm »
hi,
i always have problem at last step when i want to save "always armed"

is anybody able to quote ALL conditions i have tu fulfill to be able to save without cross in red circle?

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Re: arming - save conditions
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2015, 10:32:38 pm »
After you set arming setting to  "always armed" nothing can't be saved for safety reasons.

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Re: arming - save conditions
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2015, 07:49:24 am »
After you set arming setting to  "always armed" nothing can't be saved for safety reasons.

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this is clear, but I can not save the last "alwaysArmed", when I click SAVE only red circle with cross comes...

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Re: arming - save conditions
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2015, 11:58:52 am »
If you save the "Always Armed" arming setting, that true the button has a red cross.

But after reboot the "Always Armed" still here, so its saved.

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Re: arming - save conditions
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2015, 10:33:45 pm »
If you save the "Always Armed" arming setting, that true the button has a red cross.

But after reboot the "Always Armed" still here, so its saved.

Thanx God you are first person to have the same problem I coul find!
But sometimes I get green check OK but I do not know how i did it....
Can sw guys explain conditions to regularly save alwaysarmed?

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Re: arming - save conditions
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2015, 12:26:24 am »
The "Always armed" is a good bad idea, sometimes users set like this to allow arming without fixing issues in SystemHealth.

Another point to consider : by default Gyros are zeroed while arming, a good thing to avoid bad gyro initialization while connecting the battery.

Re: arming - save conditions
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2015, 03:47:20 am »
Yes, "Always Armed" should really only be used with fixed wing aircraft where you might legitimately use any combination of controls combined with throttle off.

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Re: arming - save conditions
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2015, 03:38:21 pm »
Yes, "Always Armed" should really only be used with fixed wing aircraft where you might legitimately use any combination of controls combined with throttle off.

Yes, i speak about fixed wing. No matter if i used for arming any other combination i can not mostly save witout error.
I do not see any problem zeroing gyros while connecting battery. Cc3d boots almost 2 seconds and it is software issue that happens only after boot, am i right?

Re: arming - save conditions
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2015, 08:33:07 pm »
CC3D (more accurately, using Basic Attitude Estimation, called Complementary Filter sometimes) gives you a few seconds before it starts gyro calibration at power on.  You can see that it is doing the calibration because the LED's blink fast.

For a test, make sure the quad stays very still while you plug a battery in and don't move it.  See how long it takes before the LEDs start blinking fast.  That is how long you have to get motionless after plugging the battery in.  Also there is a safety feature.  If it detects motion it starts over, but it can only detect larger motions since it is assuming the quad is motionless and any motion it sees is coming from uncalibrated gyros.  The worst that can happen is that it is moves slowly during calibration.

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Re: arming - save conditions
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2015, 09:22:30 am »
Thank everybody for answers, but I still do not know the answer...

For me it seems that throttle stick must be in a "special" condition (what it is?) to be able to save arming conditions correctly..

But it is not a lowest level..... it seems.....nor highest level....

any answer on this? from programming guys...

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Re: arming - save conditions
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2015, 03:51:29 pm »
In Throttle channel there is a neutral point set around 4% from whole range .

Throttle PWM values received are translated on -1, 0, 1 range

Bellow "neutral" point value is negative, and positive above.
To allow arming the throttle need to be close to -1

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Re: arming - save conditions
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2015, 09:56:25 pm »
In Throttle channel there is a neutral point set around 4% from whole range .

Throttle PWM values received are translated on -1, 0, 1 range

Bellow "neutral" point value is negative, and positive above.
To allow arming the throttle need to be close to -1

yes, for arming yes, close to -1

but to save arming condition semms not to be like this, if i have stick completely down i get red cross when click on save button

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Re: arming - save conditions
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2015, 10:12:40 am »
Hi programmers.... !

I do not know why my question is so difficult to answer? IS it deliberatly bot answered?

I try again:
- configuring and using for airplane CC3D
- everything OK, no alarms no errors no warnings anywhere in system
- last step is to configure arming:   I decide to use "AlwaysArmed"
                                                   TX running, throttle minimum (-1  in variables in data area in LiPi)
                                                  i click on SAVE button and redcross comes out instead of green confirmation sign

W H Y ?    what conditions must be fulfilled that arming is saved correctly?

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Re: arming - save conditions
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2015, 02:19:13 pm »
Are you crying ? Really ?

Whats the arming status after you saved and reboot ?
When i save Always armed here, i got a red cross and setting is saved.

Post your UAV setting file here.

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Re: arming - save conditions
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2015, 02:08:08 pm »
Are you crying ? Really ?

Whats the arming status after you saved and reboot ?
When i save Always armed here, i got a red cross and setting is saved.

Post your UAV setting file here.

I do not understand crying? What do you mean?

If there is a red cross there is something wrong. It should be confirmed by green sign?!

I only want to know what must be the setting around to save Arming with green sighn. Easy question?