Thanks for the fast reply, I dont think I am understanding this still sorry, this is new to me. So I have RateTrainer on bank 2 when I go to the Stabilization page on bank 2 with the colored sliders should this show a different setting for attitude, rate and yaw rate, predefined settings? I did read the manual that you posted. If I moved the sliders and click save it will do that, but I was thinking when I changed say from Attitude to RateTrainer it would automatically load preset figures, maybe this is what I am not understanding, sorry if I am repeating, I am only trying to understand. I have this on a CC3D with version 15.09 also if this helps, Thanks again.