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International Forums => Deutsch => Topic started by: Christoph24 on April 19, 2021, 06:34:17 pm
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Hallo ! ich habe schon Flächenmodelle und Hubis Erfahrungen Ich habe einen Bausatz von Openpilot (2015) aber die Sender Kalibrierung (Spektrum DX9) hakt immer und die Programmierung kann nicht abgeschlossen werden :( . bei Knüppel kalibrieren reagiert mein Controller nicht .Sender Bindung mit Empfänger ok , bei Testen mit Servos alles ok . Aber bei Computer Kalibrierung passiert nicht :( . die Programmierung für Controller klappt ok Motoren laufen nur bei Funke programmieren hakt . Für Hilfe vielen Dank !!
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Hello ! I already have planar models and Hubis experiences I have a kit from Openpilot (2015) but the transmitter calibration (Spektrum DX9) is always hooked and the programming cannot be completed :(. When calibrating the stick, my controller does not react. Transmitter binding with receiver ok, everything ok when testing with servos. But when calibrating the computer does not happen :(. The programming for the controller works ok. Motors only run when the radio programming is hooked. Thank you for help!
Answer in English (this helper's native tongue)
Antwort auf Englisch (Muttersprache dieses Helfers)
I apologise. You may need to read the English language version to help understand the names of things inside the running GCS program.
This sounds like a previously known issue in 16.09. The transmitter stick wizard in GCS setup actually works correctly, but does not display the stick motions / animations if the flight mode switch is disabled or configured to only have one position/mode. If you move the sticks as asked by the wizard, it works correctly, even though it doesn't animate the stick motions for you to see.
Technical note: FlightModeNumber is zero based, meaning that when you use the System tab / UAVO Browser to set it to 1 you actually get 2 flight mode switch positions. When you set it normally via Configuration -> Input -> Flight Mode Switch Settings -> Flight Mode Count, it is entered and displayed as expected; 2 means 2 positions.
Here is an English language thread that describes it.
https://forum.librepilot.org/index.php?topic=3156.msg21834#msg21834
We don't use the forum "New Poll" much (this post is set up as a Poll instead of a Topic), and it's use is discouraged for basic questions. :)
Answer translated to German (via Google translate) for the forum format
Antwort ins Deutsche übersetzt (via Google translate) für das Forum-Format
Ich entschuldige mich. Möglicherweise müssen Sie die englische Sprachversion lesen, um die Namen der Dinge im laufenden GCS-Programm zu verstehen.
Dies klingt nach einem bereits bekannten Problem in 16.09. Der Sender-Stick-Assistent im GCS-Setup funktioniert tatsächlich korrekt, zeigt jedoch die Stick-Bewegungen / Animationen nicht an, wenn der Flugmodusschalter deaktiviert oder so konfiguriert ist, dass er nur eine Position / einen Modus hat. Wenn Sie die Sticks wie vom Assistenten angefordert bewegen, funktioniert dies ordnungsgemäß, auch wenn die Stick-Bewegungen für Sie nicht animiert werden.
Technischer Hinweis: FlightModeNumber basiert auf Null. Wenn Sie also die Registerkarte System / UAVO-Browser verwenden, um sie auf 1 zu setzen, erhalten Sie tatsächlich 2 Flugmodusschalterpositionen. Wenn Sie es normal über Konfiguration -> Eingabe -> Flugmodusschaltereinstellungen -> Flugmodusanzahl einstellen, wird es wie erwartet eingegeben und angezeigt. 2 bedeutet 2 Positionen.
Hier ist ein englischsprachiger Thread, der es beschreibt.
https://forum.librepilot.org/index.php?topic=3156.msg21834#msg21834
Wir verwenden das Forum "Neue Umfrage" nicht häufig (dieser Beitrag ist als Umfrage anstelle eines Themas eingerichtet), und von seiner Verwendung wird für grundlegende Fragen abgeraten. :)
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Hello thanks for your answer! Do I understand this in the right manner ? Should I set up flight conditions for two positions in my Spektrum DX 9?
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As on the Yutube film, I reprogrammed the flight mode number to 1 in the Librepilot program and still saved the same problem in the controller ...
the fields are green and when the stick is moved the numbers change but the calibration does not continue
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the fields are green and when the stick is moved the numbers change but the calibration does not continue
Are you trying to do calibrations at "Configuration -> Attitude -> Calibration"?
Should I set up flight conditions for two positions in my Spektrum DX 9?
Yes. It is my understanding that to avoid the problem where the GCS (computer program) fails to show the stick movements during setup in version 16.09 you should have 2 or more flight modes.
I am not sure that I understand where the problem happens.
Which flight board are you using? CC3D?
What version of software/firmware are you using?
Please give a description of where you start, such as "Welcome -> Setup wizard", or "Configuration -> Attitude -> Calibration",
where in the procedure you have a problem, and what the problem is. A print screen or even a video of the problem would help.
I am sorry that German is not my native tongue. There is a small language barrier, so extra care in explanations will help me. :) There are several people here that speak German, and maybe one will come along to help better than I can.
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Hello, thank you very much for your help! I have the ccd3 as the controller and the Spektrum DX9 as the transmitter.
I downloaded the program Librepilot 16.09 for setting my Koppter.
Vehizel Setep Wizard works well only with Transmitter Setap Wizard the dome calibration does not go any further.
I'm trying to take a picture….
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The picture
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with this function stop ... does not go any further the stick movement is not recognized by librepilot or the controller
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Binding is ok ... I also have other transmitters from JETI Duplex and it's also the same ... the green fields change the numbers ... so the software recognizes the movement but doesn't go any further
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Correction the numbers next to the green fields change even when the transmitter is switched off, so communication problems
The pictures from the numbers of the transmitter is off
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Be aware that most modern transmitters only have the 4 main channels configured by default. You must read the transmitter manual and configure a switch to use as the flight mode switch, and have the signal come out the receiver connector that you have selected. It helps to plug a servo in to the receiver to verify that each channel is working.
Beware that the CC3D USB power will NOT power the RC receiver. For the RC receiver to get power, you must plug the flight battery in to the ESC/BEC as if you were going to fly.
I see on your Configuration -> Input page that the RC receiver is still not configured. I suggest that you run the Welcome -> Vehicle Setup Wizard. Make sure you run the "Transmitter Wizard" portion of the Vehicle Setup Wizard. At the end, move the sticks as directed, even if you don't see them moving, and complete the setup.
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with this function stop ... does not go any further the stick movement is not recognized by librepilot or the controller
This is the problem that I discussed in my first post. The Setup Wizard stick motion (animations) does not show unless you set it up (as I recall):
1) having a flight mode switch
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2) having at least 2 positions on the flight mode switch
and of course the RC receiver must be connected (wired) correctly, have power switched on, and must be configured with the correct signal type. I see from your pictures that you are wired using PWM, so the it must select PWM during setup.
You must have flight battery plugged in for the RC receiver to get power.
You can view the Configuration -> Input page to verify that the receiver signal is seen by the CC3D. This Input page is not affected by Flight Mode Switch setup the way the transmitter stick animations in the Setup Wizard are.
So:
- Do you see the sliders move for all required channels on the Configuration -> Input page?
- Do you have a Flight Mode Switch configured and is it set to have 2 or more positions?
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Correction the numbers next to the green fields change even when the transmitter is switched off, so communication problems
The pictures from the numbers of the transmitter is off
These USB numbers are saying that the CC3D is talking to the computer. They change as USB data rate changes and they do not care if the RC transmitter is talking to the receiver or not.
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Thank you for your help and effort .. I will check everything again and write you how it went, thank you again!
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Hello thank you for your help after how I reprogrammed PWM and also activated the flight module switch ,I can perform the calibration !! but wanted to do the Vehice Setap Wizard from the front and with the engine does not cut all motors wanting to run (I charge the battery again )
Miene question is I need to complete VSWizard and STSWizard or is the separate stored in CCD3 and are the independence of one of the ?
Thank you for help !!
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I still made the two VSW and STSWizard new and ok. Then the Qoppter from computer and wanted to try whether to control the motors with the transmitter are unfortunately not.
Then I have connected your USB cable with computer and Librepilot siht the Qoppter but the motors do not have to do what extra ?
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I still made the two VSW and STSWizard new and ok. Then the Qoppter from computer and wanted to try whether to control the motors with the transmitter are unfortunately not.
Then I have connected your USB cable with computer and Librepilot siht the Qoppter but the motors do not have to do what extra ?
When I connect the qoppter to battery then give the signal but with the transmitter I can not control the . :(
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How to start the Qopter ?
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A... ok I found on YouTube what how to start the engines ... but now I have to program the settings for beginners still that I can fly the Qoppter :()
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Miene question is I need to complete VSWizard and STSWizard or is the separate stored in CCD3 and are the independence of one of the ?
The Vehicle Setup Wizard prompts you to run the Transmitter Wizard, so by completing the Setup Wizard, you are complete.
If you want to run the Transmitter Wizard again for some reason, it can be found on the Configuration -> Input page.
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I still made the two VSW and STSWizard new and ok. Then the Qoppter from computer and wanted to try whether to control the motors with the transmitter are unfortunately not.
Then I have connected your USB cable with computer and Librepilot siht the Qoppter but the motors do not have to do what extra ?
I suggest that you try this procedure to calibrate ESCs and set the neutrals (idle speeds) for the motors.
https://librepilot.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/LPDOC/pages/12058743/ESC+Calibration
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My mistake was what I always have the spectrum participant. And then these responsible settings in the TSW hardware settings. Now I can have been VSW and STSWizard. Only now do I chat with the flight mode setting and switch assignment ... Thanks for your help
Should I assign the flight mode switch to channel 5 (my Spektrum DX9)?
How can I tell the difference in Librepilot that the stabilization setting is switched on by the channel 5 switch?
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When you run the transmitter wizard, it tells you to wiggle this stick, or toggle that switch. When you do these things, it watches to see which channel moves, and assigns the detected channel to the wiggled function. This means that you can plug the channels in, in any order and it will figure it out.
Another thing I would like to mention is that there there is Arming set up in Configuration -> Input -> Arming Settings. You must select a way to arm it there. You must arm it or the motors will not spin.
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Great, I'm trying to do the whole thing .... thank you very much again
Do you live in USA?
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Yes. USA. But I seem to be on the "night shift" lately. :)
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How interesting is it that I got help from America :)…. I found another Yutub film in German and it is easy to see how the switch for flight mode is set…. I write when the drone is flying ... do you need a permit in America to fly this drone?
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Now days the USA government requires a simple RC license for anything over 250 grams.
It seems there are much harsher requirements coming in the future :( >:( :-[ :-X :-\ :'( but maybe some work arounds.
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Hello ..... my drone is flying! Juuupppiiiii now I can finish it and then I wait for the camera and try to fly with glasses, thanks for the help!
Christoph
I come from Poland and have been living in Germany for 30 years
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Very good! Thank you for posting that you are flying.
Often, the questions just stop and we don't know if the problem is fixed or the person just stopped trying...
A good friend here: Mateusz comes from Poland and lived in Sweden for years, then moved to USA. I am not sure if he is still in USA.
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Mateusz perfekt geschrieben Bravo ! Wenn die Drohne nicht so schnell auf die Ruder Ausschlage reagiert kann ich das bei Sender Expo Einstellung ändern oder das in Stabilisation Modus die Werte verändern ?
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Sorry. Although Mateusz has been on dev chat some, he has not visited the forum here in a very very long time. :(
Your question seems to ask how to get the yaw to react more quickly. The default is 220 degrees per second at full stick. Are you seeing that much? A complete 360 degree rotation in less than 2 seconds at full yaw stick?
There are two pieces to that.
The first is that the yaw PID is tuned well and high enough. This doesn't increase the rotation rate, but it does increase the rotation acceleration. Test with full left yaw going immediately to full right yaw. A very quick way to tune the yaw PID would be to set the D term (Configuration -> Stabilization -> Advanced -> Settings Bank 1 -> Inner Loop -> Yaw -> Derivative) to zero (and leave it set to zero), then double the Yaw P and the I terms and test (repeat doubling / testing). When you start getting oscillations or other bad flight things, reduce them both (say multiply each by .75) and test. Repeat till it flies best. It's important to have the throttle neutrals set reasonably. Not too slow. And the throttle max decreased from 2000 so there is no deadband at top of throttle. It is bad if there is no difference between say 95% throttle and 100% throttle. See ESC calibration wiki for more info. It's also important that the quad be fairly well balanced. A heavy camera on one end or mismatched motors or props can make this act badly if you try to do too much yaw acceleration.
The second is that the max yaw rotation rate is settable at same page Responsiveness -> Rate Mode Response (also Max Rate Limit) -> Yaw
Finally, you can add some expo either in GCS or the transmitter, but that does not change the max rate. It only makes the center of the stick less sensitive.
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Hello, I have one more question. Does this controller switch off function when the battery voltage is too low? Is this displayed or signaled?
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The CC3D doesn't have room in it's memory for new functions, so I recall that it does not do anything related to low battery. I would post on @Jdl thread and talk to him as he knows a lot more than I do about it. He is fairly active here on the forum, so you might expect a response within maybe a week? :)
Revo class controllers have room in memory and can be set up to have voltage and current sensors for the battery. The electrical current sensor integrates and thus can tell you how much battery you have left. As far as I know, there is no RTH/RTB trigger for battery low state, even in the latest dev version ("next").
@Jdl has upgraded some OSD code to add OSD functionality that tells you some nice things about how far you can fly at your current throttle setting, etc. Warnings pop up on OSD screen, etc. Probably needs Revo class FC to use those things (needs current sensor)
https://forum.librepilot.org/index.php?topic=4938.0
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Thanks for answer how do you do the flight time with the koppter? I also fly electric propeller aircraft and there I measure electricity consumption and calculate the flight time. Or the motor controllers switch the motor off when the voltage of the LiPo is too low and then you have to land quickly ... how is it with the drones ?
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Ich habe jetzt Neue Drohne mir gekauft mit die hat den SUCCEX mini Controller ….. die wird mit BETAFLIGHT einprogrammieren …. die Erfahrungen von Librepilot kann ich leider nicht benutzen …. ich hoffe das alles klappt haben sie erfahrungen mit BATAFLIGHT ?
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I have now bought a new drone with it has the SUCCEX mini controller… .. it will program with BETAFLIGHT…. Unfortunately, I cannot use the experience of Librepilot…. I hope everything works out have you had experiences with BATAFLIGHT
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Thanks for answer how do you do the flight time with the koppter? I also fly electric propeller aircraft and there I measure electricity consumption and calculate the flight time. Or the motor controllers switch the motor off when the voltage of the LiPo is too low and then you have to land quickly ... how is it with the drones ?
You cannot have the ESC switch the motor off when voltage is low for several reasons. Instead, you need something to tell you to land before voltage gets that low. Some people time the flight, but that is different for different batteries and even different for slow flight vs. fast flight. I think the best way is to buy cheap Lipo voltage alarms that plug into the balance connector and watch individual cell voltages. They cost about USD $3.20 shipped for 2x on eBay. Set alarm to 3.6 volts and land immediately when the alarm sounds. Or set it to 3.7 or 3.8 to allow maybe a minute before you must land. "8S lipo alarm"
2x for USD $3.20 free shipping
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324239194602
1x for USD $1.75 free shipping
https://www.ebay.com/itm/114756784900
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I ordered these things, so they have to be connected during the flight and beep when the voltage is too low? I still have something on the drone where is it?
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That is a beeper and some programmable LEDs. Generally that sort of thing needs to be programmed into the controller firmware to be used. In addition to power, they need a running signal to tell them what color to show.
In Revo class controllers in LibrePilot, the WS2811/WS2812 LEDs are programmed to show flight mode and any errors, not battery state.
Generally, whatever firmware the quad came with will probably be programmed to use it.
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What kind of sensor is that? That was in the kit
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what is this sensor translates better in Polish :))
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Looks like a HifionRC HF_Nano which is a bluetooth module ... generally for telemetry / configuration.
Ads for it say that Betaflight has support for it.
It seems that you are finding that this drone has some add-on features/pieces that are supported by Betaflight. To get full use of all the pieces, you should consider using the firmware / software that it came with and that is probably Betaflight.
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now I am busy with new Qopters but the programming is in Betaflight, can you use Betaflight and Spektrum receivers?
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I would guess that is true, but it would be best to ask that on a Betaflight forum.
It's possible that someone here knows, and they can answer if so, but you are asking Toyota questions on a Ford technical forum. :)
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Perfect answer .. :)
i think i have a solution