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Title: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: Daxo on September 20, 2015, 06:29:58 pm
As title says, can someone please give me directions where I can find the Libre Pilot GCS download file.

I've just replaced my naze32 with CC3D Evo on my Defiance build and would love to run LP fw.

 Any advise on how to use it with Frsky D4R-II receiver in PPM would be of great help too. Appreciated ;)
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: RC Madman on September 20, 2015, 07:02:49 pm
They have not made an official release yet. From what I understand it should be ready soon.
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: ArnhemAnt on September 21, 2015, 02:11:55 pm
It is very close. The developers have been working hard on fine tuning a lot of cool stuff and our Flight Test Team will then get their hands on it to test the living daylights out of it, prior to it being released to the public.

I know there are a LOT of people out there eagerly waiting for the release - it is on the way so keep your eyes on the forum.
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: liftbag on September 21, 2015, 02:23:48 pm
You have pm Dragomir.
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: Daxo on September 21, 2015, 05:44:04 pm
That's great to hear, looking forward to the release! :)

Now I need to figure out how to connect the D4R-II properly to the cc3d, btw can I use any motor output + - pins for powering the board?


Just checked the pm, thx Paolo ;)
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: Daxo on September 21, 2015, 06:44:25 pm
Did I set it correctly for the DR4-II - ppm? Using DYS 20A esc with blh oneshot.

Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: f5soh on September 21, 2015, 08:01:34 pm
Yes, perfect for Oneshot.

You need to remove white wire from pin3 and put wire from pin8 for PPM.
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: Daxo on September 21, 2015, 08:16:06 pm
Thanks mate, I did just that and it works ;)

Just to make sure, in the output tab it should look like this right, ppm - ppm - pwm - pwm? attached a screenshot of my output setting



Working on flight modes, I'm mostly interested in rate mode so I set all to rate for 1st switch pos and I included another mode for sw pos2 to experiment with settings. Attachment 2.


Again, i really appreciate your help guyz and hope once I'm over the basics i'll be able to help other newcomers as well :)
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: f5soh on September 21, 2015, 08:36:43 pm
Yes, output is Ok

Two first banks are used for motors (Oneshot125) and next bank3 and bank4 are not used (default PWM).

Flight modes looks good, if you are not so experienced using Rate you can also try RateTrainer (same as Rate but max bank angles limited)
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: liftbag on September 21, 2015, 09:29:51 pm
Dragomir is experienced enough to try acro+ in my opinion  :)
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: Daxo on September 21, 2015, 09:37:57 pm
Yeah I've noticed that, the trainer option along with many others. Have to say that the features advanced really far in the last few years.

 I still need to get my bird in the air and push it hard in rate mode to compare it to naze but so far it is truly impressive how user friendly the whole thing is.

Have to crash for the night, can't wait to finish up the build tomorrow and get it flying :)


@Paolo

Time will tell :D


Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: Daxo on September 24, 2015, 05:50:32 pm
Just did a maiden flight, all seams very locked in and flew alright on stock pids despite moderate wind.

I've noticed it yaws left on throttle punch, need to read more on that matter. Also it was kinda slow for me, I'm guessing it has something to do with 'responsiveness' set to moderate.

I've used HQ 5x4.5 BN props and it felt underpowered, will first try to set responsiveness to Snappy to get the sense of what does it mean before going for 6x4.5's.

All in all, even on moderate responsiveness it felt locked in and perfectly flyable in wind on generic settings. So +1 for now! ;D

Few shoots of the rig ;)
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: MickD on September 24, 2015, 10:13:56 pm
Is the planned LibrePilot GCS going to be the same as OP 15.02.02 or will there be any updates or changes to it?
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: m_thread on September 24, 2015, 10:57:59 pm
Hi


There are changes for sure. I would recommend you to look here: https://bitbucket.org/librepilot/librepilot/pull-requests/?displaystatus=merged to see what has been added since we started LibrePilot.


Cheers
/F
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: ArnhemAnt on September 24, 2015, 11:38:07 pm
Just did a maiden flight, all seams very locked in and flew alright on stock pids despite moderate wind.
Few shoots of the rig ;)

Dude. That's a real nice build. You mention it being 'underpowered'? What is your All Up Weight, and are you running 3s or 4s for power?

I really like the look of that frame. Nice touch going with all black as colour too.
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: MickD on September 25, 2015, 04:14:27 am
Thank you. 

Hi


There are changes for sure. I would recommend you to look here: https://bitbucket.org/librepilot/librepilot/pull-requests/?displaystatus=merged to see what has been added since we started LibrePilot.


Cheers
/F
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: Daxo on September 25, 2015, 08:21:21 pm
Just did a maiden flight, all seams very locked in and flew alright on stock pids despite moderate wind.
Few shoots of the rig ;)

Dude. That's a real nice build. You mention it being 'underpowered'? What is your All Up Weight, and are you running 3s or 4s for power?

I really like the look of that frame. Nice touch going with all black as colour too.

Thanks man ;)

Yeah I did mention it felt underpowered but I flew it on 3s battery so there's that.(worth mentioning I'm using dys20A escs known to give roughly 10% less total thrust)

Need to weight it, but my rough estimate is 600 grams with 2.2Ah(200grams) battery and I still need to test it with 1.4A 40C one(115grams). The flight time difference is only 30-40seconds but a world of difference in performance.

Overall It has plenty of power just that I would like to have a bit more vertical punch as I've used to with 6x4.5 propellers.

The most exciting part for me right now is the Libre Pilot GCS and cc3d. There's no doubt the unique setup flexibility is very attractive, infact it's dead attractive :)

Can't wait to put the pace on cc3d in rate haha
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: mazevx on September 25, 2015, 08:42:54 pm
Hi


There are changes for sure. I would recommend you to look here: https://bitbucket.org/librepilot/librepilot/pull-requests/?displaystatus=merged to see what has been added since we started LibrePilot.


Cheers
/F

There is a download file, can i use it? Have a brand new board here an would like to flash with the right stuff...
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: Daxo on September 26, 2015, 06:56:21 pm
Today I finally found some time to burn some lipos. When I used 1.4Ah 40C 3s battery my Defiance had plenty of power and the control was crystal clear. Thumbs up for the cc3d! :)


So after confirming the build is set right and it works, time for the tune. Was reading and watching few videos and found this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqgZZ6-V3Qk.

I'm hoping that someone with cc3d tune experience could tell me is this a good way to do the tuning, any hints on what I should watch at during tune? Much obliged!
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: f5soh on September 26, 2015, 07:25:24 pm
You can use the normal Optune for pretty close numbers (find UOV, use OPtune form...) or use the EasyTune feature embeded on LP firmware that do the same calc in live using TxPID

https://youtu.be/6-CBHgDUF8A
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: MickD on September 26, 2015, 09:02:25 pm
What is EasyTune?

You can use the normal Optune for pretty close numbers (find UOV, use OPtune form...) or use the EasyTune feature embeded on LP firmware that do the same calc in live using TxPID

https://youtu.be/6-CBHgDUF8A
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: f5soh on September 26, 2015, 11:27:29 pm
Instead of finding the UOV on Roll/Pitch and get numbers from a form (https://optune.opng.org), you just need to setup two pots or sliders in your radio and change values on Pitch/Roll using TxPID while flying.
Same OPTune calc for I and D and Yaw PID but done onboard.
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: Daxo on September 27, 2015, 12:29:03 pm
Oh wow!

Thanks so much for the tip man, this is really practical and awesome to have in the LP GCS :)

Did i mention i've put the cc3d with LP fw to the test today in strong wind? Anyway this thing rocks! Stock settings, KK 6x4 props on 3s at heavy wind, words dont do it justice! Controls are hard wired to the stick, did everything, even fast diagonal loop/rolls on fast interations, full speed side ways drifts with direction matching rolls and loops.  O M G

Now i know i've wasted my time with other fc's and fw's.

Only thing that coukd make this thing any more perfect is atom footprint, integrated 5v bec and natural frsky telemetry support for pack voltage. There's really nothing else other than that that could make it any better end user board.

Need to charge my packs and push it more, so much fun!! ;D
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: f5soh on September 27, 2015, 01:22:23 pm
:)

Currently CC3D can't support ADC input for battery readings because ADC are used for Coptercontrol (CC)

You can maybe use directly ADC input in your FrSky Rx S.Port connector with a simple voltage divider ?
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: mazevx on October 03, 2015, 11:29:32 am
Hello, im sorry if this question is asked before... But I couldnt find an answer.
Is there an estimated release date?

I know you all work hard on it and Im happy you realized this Projekt and also be happy to be part of it, more or less as I cant really help at the moment...

MazeVX
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: Daxo on October 03, 2015, 04:28:26 pm
f5soh, for the moment I'm thinking to design the case for atom so it allows installing a tiny pololu 5v step down regulator so once the case is closed it's a single piece unit. It's probably a work around more than an actual solution but I'm eager to check how it all turns out.

 Mostly I want to see how does it 'feel' in practice to have independent fc powering and just place 12v in.

Mazevx,

I'm sure Libre Pilot guyz want to make sure it's ready before the release, all I can tell you right now as far as I've experienced the Libre Pilot GCS and fw is most definitely worth the wait.

Here's a short video from my flying today, Libre Pilot stock generic 250 settings. Nothing special per say, I've just manage to find my 5 minutes today, should have more time tomorrow and hopefully i'll have someone to shoot the video for me haha

LOS_ACRO - plain rate

2.2Ah 3s 35c 200grams battery
https://vimeo.com/141263840

(processing) this one might be a bit more interesting lol
1.4Ah 3s 40C 120ish grams battery
https://vimeo.com/141264873
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: mazevx on October 03, 2015, 06:17:37 pm
Hello Daxo, nice flight, seems to be quick for a 3S setup?!

Its not about waiting, the copter to test Libre is still waiting for a few parts so everthing is fine.
I want to test as soon as the parts arrive and I hoped that it is available then, if not, i have to test it with another firmware an flash it later, wich may cause some issues, but I hope not.
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: Daxo on October 03, 2015, 06:31:39 pm
Hello Daxo, nice flight, seems to be quick for a 3S setup?!

Its not about waiting, the copter to test Libre is still waiting for a few parts so everthing is fine.
I want to test as soon as the parts arrive and I hoped that it is available then, if not, i have to test it with another firmware an flash it later, wich may cause some issues, but I hope not.

Thx Mazevx,
yeah the Defiance is very fast and agile yet stable, especially on cc3d with this fw. That is what I can say with certainty.

Most folks think it's heavy, 590grams AUW with 1.4Ah bat and full fpv gear but the fact is it's all about the modern standard. We don't relay on 5x3 propellers anymore and electronics got significantly lighter, mostly 6x4 - 6x4.5 and that changed the whole game regarding weight/amp draw/flight time/punch. Guess it's a whole new topic :)

Anyway, I hope Libre Pilot GCS will be released soon so you can have a blast! Hope someone more technical could pitch in regarding is there any down fall in switching fw to LP.

I had none issues what so ever tho, I just used cc3d evo I got and just erase and flash the LP fw and that was pretty much it! Hope it gives some comfort :)

Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: mazevx on October 03, 2015, 07:32:00 pm
I think taulabs does the job as long as it have to ;-)
Ok 6" change everything... Im using 5x4 dal at the moment and the rebuild will be around 490g or lower ready to fly, its planned to be 4s setup,  we will see...
Sorry for off topic
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: Daxo on October 03, 2015, 08:25:49 pm
I think taulabs does the job as long as it have to ;-)
Ok 6" change everything... Im using 5x4 dal at the moment and the rebuild will be around 490g or lower ready to fly, its planned to be 4s setup,  we will see...
Sorry for off topic

5x4 on 4s will rock!
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: mazevx on October 03, 2015, 08:40:58 pm
I hope so! Got a lot of open space around, so it has to be fast or it gets boring soon...  ;-)
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: Daxo on October 03, 2015, 09:39:51 pm
I hope so! Got a lot of open space around, so it has to be fast or it gets boring soon...  ;-)

So true! Don't forget to post a video ;)
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: liftbag on October 03, 2015, 10:10:31 pm
I'm using HQ 5x4.5 no bullnose at 4S with my Defiance 250, but I'm used to the 6045, so I feel a little underpowered.
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: TheOtherCliff on October 03, 2015, 11:06:51 pm
Hello, im sorry if this question is asked before... But I couldnt find an answer.
Is there an estimated release date?

I know you all work hard on it and Im happy you realized this Projekt and also be happy to be part of it, more or less as I cant really help at the moment...

MazeVX

Flight Test Team already has release candidates.  If no problems are found, I personally am hoping it could be by next weekend.  Now that I have said that it will of course take longer.  :)
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: mazevx on October 03, 2015, 11:44:07 pm
So thats very good news!
Thank you for that information, for me its not a problem if not everything works perfect! Its only Im no software guy and compiling software scares me to much so I have to wait ;-)
Title: Re: Where to download Libre Pilot GCS
Post by: Daxo on October 04, 2015, 12:02:41 pm
Another flying session with my bro, the first video is done with severely underpowered zippy 1800mAh 25c 3s battery(120ish grams).

Planed to used it for the warm up but couldn't resist punching it a bit, not bad for that battery. Decent amount of flight time for reserved thro punch's till 3.83volt per cell.


https://vimeo.com/141311792


the second video is with 3s 2.2Ah 35c nanotech(200grams), just having fun.

Would be more fun if I could've upload the entire video but vimeo's 500mb limit a week doesn't let me so I had to shorten the video. :(

https://vimeo.com/141313391