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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: nacholibre on March 12, 2016, 02:07:19 am
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just started in this thang. i have built 2 250m racers. i have a electrical field engineers through ford and have been a senior master for 12 yrs. so i thought i would waltz in and just own this build and programming would be a breeze. How wrong i was. i cant get the cc3d to finish programming.i have been in front of this computer trying for 3 days. i have a beard now need a shower. i just want to come off the ground. been through the wizard 100s of times. please have mercy and someone help me. for i fear i will not come out of my home until i have done this. never once heard A beep,song or dance come from the esc's and motors have never moved. closest it has came to flying is when i threw it across the room earlier.please help friend
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I am almost as lost as you are. I did get mine int the air, not well, but it did fly under its own power.
In the wizard, did the motors turn doing the calibration? Did you set the dis-arm / arm settings?
What board, version, what firmware?
Plugged straight into the Rx, do the motors and ESC's arm and spin?
Buzz.
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thanks for the reply. funny how these things get so many views and no replies. and the only person willing to help is in the same mess i am. reminds me of real life. one poor sap had like 500 views and 0 responses. seems like they wanna act as if they were born with a pair of fatsharks on their head. but no i have never heard them make a sound.and the motors have never moved on their own. nothing during calibration of highs and lows. i have put them on every setting. (even always armed) i have battery voltage to the esc but not going through them. i am actually complete in my programming of the fc and it still wont do anything. the transmitter wont program right for throttle now. at first i thought because i put the fc in side ways so i could easily access the usb plug in. but i adjusted the setting by 90 degrees and finally just put it in there with the arrow pointing the way it should. didnt help any.i mean im pretty sure they took alot of this programming style from the automotive and airline software because its so much like it that it was like second nature to me. but i am missing something that is exclusive only to this type vehicle and i cant put my finger on it. i mean i was at the inception of PIDs with ford. i write code for high performance diesel engines ,hotrods you name it. but this has me frustrated like i havent been in years. im 40yrs old and been in the electrical field since i got out of high school.i know that in theory my set up is genius but somewhere along the line something isnt communicating right. im sure its something so simple that when i figure it out i will be real tore up lol. i have had quads that i didnt make on the program and adjusted them to a more acro setting and it was just too much so i had to take back to the attitude setting and everything went fine. so i dont know dude?? thanks
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It's a Friday night (actually Saturday morning now here on the US East coast) and most of the people who would have answered your questions aren't on here right now. It's been a really quiet night on here.
I'm about to go to bed but I'll ask a few questions that might help others help you. The European members usually start popping in about an hour from now.
If it's the type that you can do it have you tried hooking the ESCs directly to the receiver?
When you're running through the wizard what works and what doesn't? When you move the sticks does the wizard see it?
Post screenshots of the configuration tab's vehicle, input, and output sub-tabs. That should give whoever ends up helping you some (hopefully all) of the information they need. Or at least enough to eliminate some of the possibilities.
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ok bud thanks. im just frustrated. i will be sure to add these things. thanks again and good night.
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Hi Nacholibre, welcome here.
Not sure about your issue here after two posts here, be concise please.
Make paragraphs, more easy to read (remember people here are not all from usa or english speaking natives)
I know more about you life than your setup and this didn't help for diagnose/resolve your issues :)
Post your config file here for example: File > Export Uav settings.
Thanks,
Laurent
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Thank you. Yes, i was getting very frustrated and hopefully got that point across lol. Now that that is out of the way i will give you a run down quickly before I try and gather up some useful information. I have a CC3D FC (im guessing a Chinese knock off due to the trouble i had starting a session due to an out of date corrupt file it came with) SimonK ESC's 12a, Hobbyfan 2204-2300kv motors and a flysky FS-iA6 RX and FS-i6 TX and a Usmile mini PDB. The fpv setup is irrelevant as it is completely independant from the unit. And it works just fine. I have completed the vehicle wizard with success other than no action with the ESC's or motors. No beeps, sounds or motor movement whatsoever. I have battery voltage every where up to the ESC's but not through them. The TX and RX are paired and communicating with the FC and GCS. However the PID movement of the sticks are incorrect for the throttle mainly. I had the FC in sideways for easy access to USB connection. And configured for my placement. I have since put it in its forward position and returned to default placement to rule that out as a problem. Error messages i have received include, ESC didnt take the program( i dont remember the exact term) and throttle range didnt configure. when i moved the throttle the pitch was moving. No switch moved the throttle. TX is configured to mode 2 throttle and yaw left hand. Hopefully this is a easier reading for you as i am by no means a writer or english scholar. I will now try and get some raw data and photos for any who cares too look at them. Please forgive my sloppiness as i am cruising on very little, to no sleep the last 3 days. So i am subject to a serious nap at any moment lol. Thank you again. I am new to this forum as well. Im sure it will take some practice to get proficient. It is 341am where i am so if i dont make it too much longer please leave me any helpful information i promise i will be back on soon and be very greatful.
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Post config file and some pictures that show how you wired receiver and motors.
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I would suggest to check if wiring is correct, can you control motors with receiver or servo tester.
Maybe providing screenshot of Configuration->Output and Configuration->Input ? SystemHealth ? and Exported UAVs like f5soh suggested.
If you go through vehicle wizard and calibrate motors for their neutral point, they should start spinning.
To me it looks like wiring maybe signal flipped with ground in servo ?
Motors must spin when calibrating neutral point in vehicle wizard, if they don't it's something wrong hardware-wise.
Stupid question, but did you connect battery when asked by the wizard ? :)
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hopefully these come through and help thank you so much again
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Please remove all CruiseControl in Input > FlightMode Settings tab.
Cruise control is not currently allowed with Rate: There is an alarm in SystemHealth
Redo Tx Wizard, this allow Gcs to do the mapping input channel / function (Throttle, Pitch...)
Input tab > RcInput > Start Tx wizard (need +5V external power, look if receiver is powered)
Just for remove some issues.
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Yes Mateusz, and thank you. battery was hooked up and ive looked at every diagram and video i can on the web. However some of them do conflict each other so i tried them all. and nothing ever moved during the end point test. Lord i would hope i didnt wire incorrectly. as it is a pretty simple set up. the conversion of DC to a 3 phase style motor should run if only in the wrong direction. and like i said power goes to all components but not through the ESC's but all the to them. But im so worn out and frustrated i could have easily overlooked something or made a mistake. i have run down 3 lipos just on GCS i have them all on charger right now and it is a slow charger lol. i have a little left in this last battery. but im almost at the end of my rope till the others recharge. My battery needs some recharging too. probably gonna crash pretty soon. i guess we have a little time difference between us. i shouldve went to bed like 5-6 hours ago. but this is driving me nuts lol thanks again.
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f5soh, thank you. ok i will be sure to do those as soon as i get a battery up to a safe charge. i really appreciate it. and i think the system health was either for ESC or throttle input missing those are the too warnings i got.
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Isn't 3rd servo cable from esc to fc flipped with signal (orange) plugged into ground ?
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Mateusz, youre right three of them. but i had them all unplugged and just hastily plugged them back in. i havent powered it up in a few hours. thanks for noticing that because i would have went back into the session with them like that as tired as i am. but i looked at a picture i took earlier and they werent like that. But youre right i do currently have those three in flipped. Now i feel like i need to take that picture down. They were like that earlier when i was working on it though. thanks
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everyone who replied to this.........hwh,f5soh and Mateusz i want to thank you for you time and expertise! youre very kind to take your time to help othesr and i am greatful too you all. you rock!! i changed those cruise options and moved those wires back and for the first time ever i heard my esc's play me a sweet song. im not flying yet as im still having TX probs with my sticks but that was a huge accomplishment to me and a big step in the right direction that i would never have been able to do without you. im sure i prob just got some wires wrong on the receiver or something. i sure wish i could buy you all a drink. this is truely a great forum with great people and i just wanna thank you again for your help. it really means alot to me. :D
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in the output mode i have one motor #4 that is spinning now none of the other do however. but that one motor has me smiling.
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Frustration level 100!!
Yes I have been there. I was so bent with the trouble and problems I had programming my er9x that I bought a Flysky i10. Of course after I get the i10 setup. I look and sit down and program my er9x in like 20 minutes. Missed one small step and it all went down hill.
You have made good steps forward. Now to get all 4 motors turning. When I first started, I was on the now close open pilot. No matter what I did I could not get all the way through the radio calibration. It would stop in different part of the cal, but never get all the way through. After many hours of trying, ready to use my Tx as a hammer on my CC3D, I tried another USB cable, well it worked this time. No idea why but the other 2 cables did not work. Work for my phone, card reader, ext HD, everything else but not the CC3D?
My mount for my CC3D will be here next week, then I can try again. I was told that mounting it with foam tape is not a good idea, so I ordered a mount and will see if it works with the mount.
Buzz.
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Yeah open pilot is dead and that is what the problem was. One moderator told me I had to change so of the cruise pids and that got the motor going. But in the end it was the FC just couldn't do the process because of a corrupt file from and old openpilot session. I had to get a new cc3d and it went through like a cake walk. I am gonna make a rack out of the case the corrupt cc3d had on it so my pdb and fc can be lined up pdb on bottom fc on top. Hope you get your going soon. Man it suck being down. I worked on mine for like 4 days straight ,early in to mornings sometimes and still doing little stuff to it
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...corrupt file from and old openpilot session. ...new cc3d ...the corrupt cc3d
Meaning you think it's permanently broken or something? Have you seen "Unbricking: Bootloader / resurrection FW if you had non LP / non OP fw on it" https://forum.librepilot.org/index.php?topic=208.0 ?