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Users => Vehicles - MultiRotors => Topic started by: liftbag on September 02, 2015, 05:38:29 pm

Title: My RD290 Mini Hex
Post by: liftbag on September 02, 2015, 05:38:29 pm
I fly with this excellent hex (http://fpv-reconn.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=112) for a year.
The project was designed to be very compact and is intended for 5" propellers.
Its strong points are:
Looking for more performance, but above all, greater efficiency, the designer (trinco on rcg) created a new version with longer arms to accommodate 6" propellers, the RD350 UBER Hex (http://fpv-reconn.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=131).
I must say that although the intent is desirable, a 350 hex is more than I consider practical and pleasant.
But when I saw the solution to overlapping propellers (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=30214760&postcount=902), it was love at first sight.
It was the input to buy the 3D printer and begin to customize my multi-rotors.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/540/9U5CsC.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/a/img540/3816/9U5CsC.jpg)


The performance of this compact hex have always been the benchmark for my multi rotors. Extreme precision, power and efficiency, nothing flies better among my copters.
There remains only one minus point compared to quads, the aerodynamic drag.

For this reason, I'm rebuilding from scratch inspired to the TBS Gemini. So partially overlapping propellers thanks to 12° tilted motors.
With the stock arms there is the insurmountable obstacle of the insufficient distance between the rear propellers.
So I designed these banana arms that are in the mill just as I type.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/538/gK3knU.png) (http://imageshack.com/a/img538/1126/gK3knU.png)


The tilted motor mounts are already 3D printed.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/540/rDynt5.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/a/img540/1262/rDynt5.jpg).


Even the remaining arms have been modified, shortening them to the minimum possible (6mm).
The center of thrust is only 4.5mm behind the center of flight controller, and asymmetries of the arms will be corrected with the matrix table.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/673/1B1UAt.png) (http://imageshack.com/a/img673/2258/1B1UAt.png).

Flight controller is the OP Revolution.

I'm excited while waiting to try. I expect improved performance from this build  :)
Title: Re: My RD290 Mini Hex
Post by: ArnhemAnt on September 02, 2015, 11:20:02 pm
Wow. A lot of time and development has obviously gone into this frame design. It looks exciting. Can't wait to see and hear more as the build gets airborne.
Title: Re: My RD290 Mini Hex
Post by: Roki97 on September 04, 2015, 12:30:42 am
I fly with this excellent hex (http://fpv-reconn.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=112) for a year.
The project was designed to be very compact and is intended for 5" propellers.
Its strong points are:
  • excellent engineering
  • high quality materials
  • clean/dirty construction
  • great configuration flexibility
Looking for more performance, but above all, greater efficiency, the designer (trinco on rcg) created a new version with longer arms to accommodate 6" propellers, the RD350 UBER Hex (http://fpv-reconn.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=131).
I must say that although the intent is desirable, a 350 hex is more than I consider practical and pleasant.
But when I saw the solution to overlapping propellers (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=30214760&postcount=902), it was love at first sight.
It was the input to buy the 3D printer and begin to customize my multi-rotors.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/540/9U5CsC.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/a/img540/3816/9U5CsC.jpg)


The performance of this compact hex have always been the benchmark for my multi rotors. Extreme precision, power and efficiency, nothing flies better among my copters.
There remains only one minus point compared to quads, the aerodynamic drag.

For this reason, I'm rebuilding from scratch inspired to the TBS Gemini. So partially overlapping propellers thanks to 12° tilted motors.
With the stock arms there is the insurmountable obstacle of the insufficient distance between the rear propellers.
So I designed these banana arms that are in the mill just as I type.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/538/gK3knU.png) (http://imageshack.com/a/img538/1126/gK3knU.png)


The tilted motor mounts are already 3D printed.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/540/rDynt5.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/a/img540/1262/rDynt5.jpg).


Even the remaining arms have been modified, shortening them to the minimum possible (6mm).
The center of thrust is only 4.5mm behind the center of flight controller, and asymmetries of the arms will be corrected with the matrix table.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/673/1B1UAt.png) (http://imageshack.com/a/img673/2258/1B1UAt.png).

Flight controller is the OP Revolution.

I'm excited while waiting to try. I expect improved performance from this build  :)
Grande Paolo! Well done!
Title: Re: My RD290 Mini Hex
Post by: liftbag on September 04, 2015, 08:08:18 pm
Going on. Custom arms made by a friend of mine.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/912/bSb2F8.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/a/img912/7130/bSb2F8.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/538/wHxKXT.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/a/img538/7904/wHxKXT.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/537/kinAub.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/a/img537/9916/kinAub.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/910/w0FwOw.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/a/img910/5017/w0FwOw.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/537/5Kf054.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/a/img537/1994/5Kf054.jpg)
Title: Re: My RD290 Mini Hex
Post by: ggrif on September 13, 2015, 06:55:49 pm
Very sexy liftbag!  I'm no engineer so you'll have to excuse me if this is a dumb question but, won't the overlapping props cause a turbulence problem?
Title: My RD290 Mini Hex
Post by: liftbag on September 14, 2015, 04:50:05 am
Sure ggrif.
But many claims that partially overlapped props increase efficiency a little bit, different from coaxial props.
Anyway seems that increasing the overlapping area has decreased efficiency.
But I want it small, powerfull and with better efficiency than 5" props, and all goals are achieved.(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/13/3b49fa4dd9ea38c63cde0322f24e976e.jpg)(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/13/c7fe0da57c84690535d064da7dc2cd52.jpg)
Title: Re: My RD290 Mini Hex
Post by: xpantz on September 14, 2015, 07:28:23 am
Looks the goods liftbag.  Very nice!

Title: Re: My RD290 Mini Hex
Post by: liftbag on September 16, 2015, 08:05:32 am
Just a smooth flight while I'm adjusting PIDs with Easy Tune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A2XTUaZuB8
Title: Re: My RD290 Mini Hex
Post by: liftbag on October 13, 2015, 02:30:29 pm
New 3D printed stuff, and Foxeer HD Legend 1 rec cam.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/911/ui3PJI.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/a/img911/491/ui3PJI.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/631/EGwSCR.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/a/img631/8626/EGwSCR.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/903/rP8ojk.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/a/img903/2162/rP8ojk.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/905/U9m58A.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/a/img905/251/U9m58A.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/633/EI7G3e.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/a/img633/3825/EI7G3e.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/631/vpauUT.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/a/img631/9873/vpauUT.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/903/tIRdUV.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/a/img903/1550/tIRdUV.jpg)
Title: Re: My RD290 Mini Hex
Post by: Z33 on October 14, 2015, 02:19:49 am
Amazing machine friend!
Title: Re: My RD290 Mini Hex
Post by: nabreu on October 26, 2015, 02:00:25 pm
Truly amazing machine. Where did you get that 3D printed Foxeer holder ?
Title: My RD290 Mini Hex
Post by: liftbag on October 28, 2015, 06:49:34 am
Truly amazing machine. Where did you get that 3D printed Foxeer holder ?
Tanks. I have designed and printed the Foxeer holder by myself.

Here is a video of my RD280 made with the Legend1: https://forum.librepilot.org/index.php?topic=48