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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: paulj on September 07, 2016, 09:13:29 pm
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After almost a year adding features and fixing bugs, the LibrePilot team is very pleased to make 16.09 RC1 available to you. Some things still need to be fixed but it’s ready for widespread testing.
A release candidate (RC) is a beta version with potential to be a final product, which is ready to release unless significant bugs emerge.
Known issues:- [LP-289] - pid control ne and down have nan dz if kp is zero
- [LP-303] - GCS menus broken when in full screen mode
- [LP-397] - ModelView misbehaving on MacOSX
Issues in progress:- [LP-245] - GCS unsaved data prompt when nothing changed
- [LP-333] - Sparky2 I2CPort needs GPIO_PuPd_UP instead of NOPULL
The full list of bug fixes and enhancements in this release is available at https://librepilot.atlassian.net/issues/?filter=10500 (https://librepilot.atlassian.net/issues/?filter=10500)
16.09 RC1 Installers are available at
https://librepilot.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LPDOC/16.09+RC+Downloads (https://librepilot.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LPDOC/16.09+RC+Downloads)
You need to “Upgrade&Erase” the board first - many UAVO have changed since release 15.09, and failure to follow this step will lead to problems!
Local templates (Tools->Export/Import Vehicle Template) can be used to backup important settings before you upgrade GCS and restore them after the upgrade.
Please report any issues first in this thread in this forum including detailed steps to reproduce the problem.
Make sure you keep safety at the forefront at all times: this is a release candidate that need testing, not a final release.
New Hardware support:
- Sparky2 board
- Auxiliary Magnetometer: I2C and Naza GPS
- Revo FlexiIO port usage e.g. PPM+GPS
New input modes:
- Jeti Ex.Bus
- Graupner Hott
- FlySky IBus
- PPM up to 16 channels
- OpenLRS support for Revolution using internal radio module (no external receiver)
New telemetry protocols:
- MSP, MAVLink. OSD devices that use those protocols may now be connected directly (e.g.: minimosd with MWOSD).
New Flight oriented features:
- AlwaysStabilizeWhenArmed (Airmode) using switch
- Oneshot42/Multishot
- Measurement based D term gives smoother flight
- SuperExpo, you may need half expo value compared to rel15.09
- Camera tilt compensation
- Lower CPU load for CC3D
- Autotune is back
GCS improvements:
- PFD with terrain / OsgEarth improvements
- Failsafe settings using GUI
- Vehicle and Transmitter wizard improvements
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Reserved for further information!
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So its safe to assume that 16.09 is stable and ready to use, or will there be a full release of 16.09 when all bug fixes are in place?
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Hundreds of people have been running next for the last four or five months because it includes external mag support and DJI Naza GPS support. RC1 is a feature frozen (no new features to be added) version of next. Depending on feedback we receive from users of RC1 there will probably be one or two more RCx versions tweaking things before the final "release" version of 16.09 is finalized.
There are no known problems that would stop someone from running RC1.
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The Autotune future is where? I dont found .. :-\
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The Autotune future is where? I dont found .. :-\
You have no gui to set parameters at the moment.
You can find all parameters in System > Settings > SystemIdentSettings.
To enable Autotune you simply have to enable it in one of the Flight Mode Switch Positions.
Better to have at least three flight mode position, example, mode1 to take off, mode2 to enable autotune in-flight, mode3 where the autotune PIDs were stored.
Detailed instruction here: https://librepilot.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LPDOC/AutoTune
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ok thank you. I thought there is a Gui Button like dRonin.
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ok thank you. I thought there is a Gui Button like dRonin.
I think we will before the final release.
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ok thank you. I thought there is a Gui Button like dRonin.
There will be, as you can see here: https://librepilot.atlassian.net/browse/LP-399
(All Open issues with 16.09RC1 can be seen here: http://goo.gl/23ygno)
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My PFD screen is blank, in 15.09 it was ok. Can you fix that?
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Try to start with a "clean configuration":
(https://i.imgur.com/pLAJjpR.png)
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Will my PIDs from old Libre Version work with the new one ?
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Will my PIDs from old Libre Version work with the new one ?
Yes, they work. Maybe smoother with the new derivative.
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Try to start with a "clean configuration":
Great, thank you.
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Hi,
I am a convinced user of the status LEDs, very helpful for a good flight preparation.
However with the recent release I see new white color, which did not exist in the old versions.
In case there is a new status LED sequence, where may I find it ?
Thanks for your help :)
Jean
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Hi Zano :)
Notifications changed, here is a short explanation :
https://bitbucket.org/librepilot/librepilot/pull-requests/283/
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Hello (sorry for my english),
Is there a tutorial that explain step by step the autotune configuration? I saw the autotune page but seem very difficult. Or is the new release make it easyer?
Thank you in advance
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Or is the new release make it easyer?
It will be easier in one of the next RCs and the final release, see here: https://librepilot.atlassian.net/browse/LP-399
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Ok thank you.
so just have to wait ;), good.
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Thanks @marc You solved one of my problems of not displaying FDT. But why do you need to use clean config?
cc3D
SK esc's
250 Spedix quad
Also have a couple of other questions. All these before using clean config GCS.
1: went through vehicle setup and chose rapid esc's however when I went back to output tab (after config errors in flight data tab) the update rate was at 50 hz. Changed to 490 hz all ok. why?
2: before using clean config GCS would time out after 5-10 min. Not using full screen. ?
3: could not reload saved vehicle template, lucky for me I saved screen shots. ?
I know they are minor problems.
Thanks to all for the hard work have been using and loving LP for a while and now looking forward to setting up DJI gps on my next build a 450.. Although would like to see info specific to the DJI gps most advice seems to be for separate connections for mag and gps.
Have not tested yet bad weather.
Thanks
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Hi,
Wizard Esc issue: I cannot reproduce here, if you select the "Normal Esc" : 50Hz, if you select "Rapid Esc" : PWMSync or PWM-490Hz for PWM input.
Please try to reproduce again and provide a step by step.
GCS time out : i don't understand what do you mean exactly.
Import Template: You cannot reload the template due to the template not found in list or loaded template but not applied ?
All calibration procedure is the same using Naza GPS, the wiring diagram is found in Wizard.
(https://forum.librepilot.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2266.0;attach=4115)
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Thanks for quick reply.
Regarding esc issues hard to reproduce without going through the whole thing again. I suspect I may have selected normal. I thought all was ok because I could still test motors.
GCS time out: before using clean config the GCS would disconnect from FC every 5-10 min. Would need to close GCS unplug FC then reconnect all.
Saved template before upgrade, after upgrade went to import found in list added and opened file, could not import. Probably something I did wrong.
Thanks for Naza wiring I don't have mine yet it's in the mail. just doing my homework.
When you say diagram is in Wizard where or do you mean wiki? Or does it only show up if REVO connected, my other board is a REVO but thought I would try the release candidate on CC3D first.
Thanks only posting because it may have something to do with the RC 16.09
cheers
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Every time you use Vehicle Wizard you can display the connection diagram on Summary page and save it if you want.
(https://forum.librepilot.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2266.0;attach=4117)
Added a template Import/Export page:
https://librepilot.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=63668239
Remember a template save only important settings like PID.
You need to redo Radio wizard later or adjust the board rotation if any.
Specific settings are not handled with templates.
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Hi,
after downloading the GCS 16.09 RC1 I have trouble locating a 16.x firmware download, the application directory also does not contain any *.opfw files, and a all_fw archive for the rescue mode is only availiable for 15.x
Can someone tell me how to obtain the latest FW binarys ?
Thanks,
Alex
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Hi,
You do not need opfw files, they are already packaged inside GCS.
You should simply use the Upgrade&Erase button.
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i have trouble with the "normal" Upgrade & Erase process, that never worked out with my Revo (which is probably a chinese clone :-< )
The Bord initially came bricked/blank, and i was forced to unbrick it via Flashloader and after flashing the bl_ only the recovery flash process works well for the fw.
I wasnt planing on debugging that issue since i can flash somehow, as long as i have a opfw file ...not sure how to solve this. Suggestions ?
PS. thank you for moving the post and sorry for choosing the wrong forum.
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What trouble do you have with Upgrade&Erase ?
Did you try the manual update while you hit the button before connecting the board ?
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The manual "Upgrade & Erase" worked, i didn't test that combination yet ( Manual Upgrade tested, and Auto "Upgrade&Erase" )
thank you for your fast help, somehow i feel stupid now with such a simple solution :-)
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Since the board has at least a bootloader you can use the "manual" upgrade.
If Revo has already a running firmware the auto reboot and upgrade (hit Upgrade or Upgrade&Erase after the board is connected) should work as well.
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I just want to rise concern about R9DS incompatibility with LP firmware. I did some testing and post in another thread: https://forum.librepilot.org/index.php?topic=2167.0.
It is about interpretation of SBus protocol and timing tolerance. R9DS rx work on MissionPlanner with Pixhawk, PixRacer etc., but does not work with LP on Revo, Sparky2.
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I would like to see ASWA aka "airmode" as a designated flight mode... whereas i could arm with yaw right without the motors spooling at idle yake off and then switch to airmode, then switch back for normal landing so the motors stop at zero throttle. Thoughts???
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Have you read the ASWA instructions in the wiki? The current way of enabling it with a switch or flight mode switch position is more flexible than having it as an actual flight mode.
https://librepilot.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LPDOC/Always+Stabilized+When+Armed+mode+setup
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I currently have ASWA setup on a switch like the wiki suggests... my thoughts were more in line for safety concerns because for some it may be unnatural to have to disarm to stop the motors with a switch upon landing. Also should i leave the check box zero the integral when throttle is low unchecked when using ASWA?
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I'm just not understanding why you want ASWA as an actual flight mode. Currently it's an addon to a flight mode enabled by either a separate switch or a flight mode switch position range. How is landing with it as a separate flight mode any different than the current only enabled on some flight mode switch positions? Either way you have to change the flight mode switch position to disable it.
I'm not sure what the exact interaction (if any) between ASWA and zero integral is. I always leave it checked.
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I was concerned that when my throttle is low during a maneuver while using ASWA and or coming out of a maneuver while throttle is low it will not hold its angle with it enabled. But without it enabled it should hold angle regardless of my throttle position. Does this make sense?
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Merci pour la réponse Laurent.
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Installed 16.09-RC1 on one of my Revo Nano's today. It was a real bear to get it to take. Did a full "Erase and load" then erased the settings again and closed the GCS and rebooted the FC. Ran the setup but had to close the GCS a number of times because it froze or odd behavior in the TX setup like the sticks were not responding. Once it was finally installed I did the calibrations but some did not take and the GCS froze a few more times. Got them done and setup default F450 settings and took it for a short flight. I like some of the new stuff added but did not get to really enjoy it because of all the lockups. I am running Windows 7 on a higher end desktop.
Flew really well and the Baro was rock solid even in a 6-10mph wind. Sun went down so I will have to try more later this week.
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Is it me (I mean my computer), or can I no longer setup my OPLink Mini using GCS 16.09? When I connect my OPLink Mini via USB, GCS does connect but the "OPLink" icon is not shown nor is the hardware shown in the "Firmware" tab. When I power my Revolution flight controller, the radio link is established and I can use GCS to interface my Revolution flight controller through the OPLink Mini. Before raising an issue I'd like someone else to confirm this behaviour is not due to my computer. Note that I have upgraded the firmware of my Revolution flight controller but not (yet) that of my OPLink Mini.
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...Note that I have upgraded the firmware of my Revolution flight controller but not (yet) that of my OPLink Mini.
It won't work until you update the firmware. Click upgrade and erase and then plug the oplink into the computer.
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Ah, I had a feeling that I needed to upgrade the firmware, but then I tried and it didn't work. The key was to first hit the "Upgrade & Erase" button and then plug the OPLink Mini into my computer. Now it works, thanks! I was (like with the Revolution flight controller) expecting a pop-up when I start GCS having the OPLink Mini with old firmware connected about incompatibility, and then allowing me to upgrade firmware...
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Anyone seen the cockpit view like this (attached image file) before? Looks like it is uninitialised or something. I'm not sure if it was like this when I started GCS 16.09 for the first time, but it is like this always now.
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Anyone seen the cockpit view like this (attached image file) before? Looks like it is uninitialised or something. I'm not sure if it was like this when I started GCS 16.09 for the first time, but it is like this always now.
Did you try reseting your GCS settings ? There is a way to start gcs with -reset option, if you use windows it should be in the menu. If you use GNU/Linux then from command line librepilot-gcs -reset. It will clear previous settings of GCS look and all should be fine. If not let us know.
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I tried to start Libre Pilot GCS (clean configuration) (which is with the -reset option). Now it is normal again, thanks.
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Just updated everything in my old Win 7 PC - so I can download 16.09-RC1 - which on my iMacs seems to flicker on pages and jump from the page I want to whatever it wants and back again.
Now I cannot install this new version - error message are repeated .DLL unable to install. I seem to recall this had been mentioned - but I have not seen it (so far) in this thread.
Is there a fix?
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[CUT] - which on my iMacs seems to flicker on pages and jump from the page I want to whatever it wants and back again. [CUT]
Are you using the Apple magic mouse? I have the flicker pages since I use the magic mouse. Touching lightly its surface causes the flickering. I think using the touchpad produce the same effect.
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Is in the RC1 the LED Output Port aka Channel 7-10 supported on the Sparky 2? I wan't to use it for my Retract Gear...
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Thanks LP team for this RC and all your hard work.
Have upgraded two (250) quads to 16.09RC one a cc3d and the other a revo. very easy.
Using the same PID's from 15.09 both quads seem to be more responsive and stable, am very happy.
Just waiting for DJI gps to be delivered to try out new features. Can't wait.
So thanks again
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I upgraded to RC1 today on my Dell XPS13 laptop, which has a 1080p screen and encountered a minor issue.
Windows 10's recommended default font scaling for this machine is 150% - anything lower is pretty difficult to read. This isn't an issue for other apps including GCS 15.09. However apparently 16.09 scales it's UI up quite a bit at 150% font scaling. Perhaps this is a side-effect of the new version of Qt? This is great except that in this context the minimum vertical size of the Vehicle Setup Wizard dialog forces it to extend beyond the bottom of the screen. This causes a problem where the Next / Cancel buttons are off-screen and not clickable.
The workaround is easy - temporarily reduce font scaling to 125%. But addressing the issue should be pretty simple as well. Probably just setting the minimum height of the dialog to a smaller value would work, allowing the dialog height to fit < 1080p@150% and triggering Qt to add a vertical scroll-bar to the contained wizard window.
See attached.
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Thank you for your hard work! I installed the RC1 today, and I was very happy to see the possibility to connect the GPS to the receiver port. Is there any documentation on how to connect the GPS to that port? Thank you in advance!
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Maybe here:
https://librepilot.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LPDOC/GPS+setup
There is also a connection diagram you can save in summary page while using the Vehicle wizard.
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Is there a tutorial that explains step by step the autotune configuration? I saw the autotune page but seems very difficult. Or does the new release make it easier?
The top of the AutoTune wiki has had a new section added that describes the simplest use of AutoTune.
https://librepilot.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LPDOC/AutoTune
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ok thank you. I thought there is a Gui Button like dRonin.
dRonin / TauLabs requires use of GCS to complete the autotune procedure. LibrePilot can do this all without GCS. Read up at the wiki.
https://librepilot.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LPDOC/AutoTune
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ok thank you. I thought there is a Gui Button like dRonin.
dRonin / TauLabs requires use of GCS to complete the autotune procedure. LibrePilot can do this all without GCS. Read up at the wiki.
https://librepilot.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LPDOC/AutoTune
Ran Autotune on a new build yesterday and it worked like a charm, I like being able to do it in the field. Thanks for all of the hard work on this!
Ben
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ok thank you. I thought there is a Gui Button like dRonin.
dRonin / TauLabs requires use of GCS to complete the autotune procedure. LibrePilot can do this all without GCS. Read up at the wiki.
https://librepilot.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LPDOC/AutoTune
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Is in the RC1 the LED Output Port aka Channel 7-10 supported on the Sparky 2? I wan't to use it for my Retract Gear...
Yes, the LED output port works, you should pick the signal just before the mosfets for normal PWM output use.
(https://forum.librepilot.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2266.0;attach=4222)
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Yes i do this, but it don't work
Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk
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Just tested and i have the output7 to output10 working as expected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiCMAmdMYB8
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Hello. Today I have checked different settings. But the failsafe settings do not function properly. If you place "Throttle" in the negative area, e.g. -35% and then you loses the input signal, the throttle cut to zero. Positive settings function as intended. Is this a known issue?
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Throttle value bellow 0 (negative) mean Throttle cut.
-1 value also allow disarm the board after the timeout value.
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So I have to set +0,30 for 30% thrust, right? Thanks!
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You should never set throttle value above 0 in failsafe mode. If failsafe triggers, something went wrong and you no longer have any control.
You do not want your props spinning in that case.
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Try to start with a "clean configuration":
(https://i.imgur.com/pLAJjpR.png)
hi....
how to conect to the phone..?
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how to conect to the phone..?
See here: https://librepilot.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LPDOC/LibrePilot2Go+Android+App
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Can I add a barometer module to cc3d atom with this version.
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how to conect to the phone..?
See here: https://librepilot.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LPDOC/LibrePilot2Go+Android+App
if i dont have bluetooth modul for cc3d....thats mean i can not connect to the phone..? thats right..?
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if i dont have bluetooth modul for cc3d....thats mean i can not connect to the phone..? thats right..?
If your phone supports USB OTG you can buy an USB OTG adapter and plug the cc3d into it.
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Can I add a barometer module to cc3d atom with this version.
No, cc3d does not support barometers and never will due to memory limitations.
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if i dont have bluetooth modul for cc3d....thats mean i can not connect to the phone..? thats right..?
You can connect via USB, see here: https://librepilot.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LPDOC/LibrePilot2Go+Android+App#LibrePilot2GoAndroidApp-USB (basically the same page as above)
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if i dont have bluetooth modul for cc3d....thats mean i can not connect to the phone..? thats right..?
If your phone supports USB OTG you can buy an USB OTG adapter and plug the cc3d into it.
thanks hwh...
i ll try soon.....
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I'm trying this release on my TBS discovery frame with Openpilot revolution FC and GPSv9 Platinum.
Seems to work well until switch from basic to INS13 - GPS Navigation and configure a couple of GPS flight modes.
Then the quad wants to flip over when i throttle up. I have done all the mag calibrations. and this worked well in the previous librepilot release.
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How is the Mag alarm while you apply Throttle ?
Please post your config file. File > Export UAV settings
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Did another Mag calibration. and now it seems to be working. all good.
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just a summary how it looks from installation point of view
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNvPdiO9LT4
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hi all..
anyone have video or make the video how to set and activate autotune..?
i still confuse here......
thanks...
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Just received my DJI gps (original), setup was a breeze on my Revo after following instructions from this forum.
Too wet and miserable outside to test however was able to get up to 10 sats inside on my coffee table.
This may or not relate to this RC but the GPS display gadget sky view does not show any satellites even though the gadget tells me the number of sats used and I have a 3D fix. Also all sensors green no alarms and Attitude Estimation Algorithm is set to GPS Navigation INS13.
Thanks
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About GPS sat sky view and Naza GPS:
https://forum.librepilot.org/index.php?topic=2376.0
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This thread will remain open for discussions related to RC1 but RC2 is now out and you should switch to testing it. https://forum.librepilot.org/index.php?topic=2424.0